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      A Former User last edited by

      Very interesting information…

      Are you saying it looks like there is ASICs in development for NeoScrypt?

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        mirrax last edited by

        @cisahasa I got an tip that KNC is testing other firmwares, now on FTC. I wanted to say that I think that they prepared their hardware part to support anything. It is possible that no one can say for some algo that is ASIC resistant. If you look what happened to nscrypt coins last few days you will understand what I m saying. If you look at few miners joining to coinotron and if you calculate you will see that they have at least 800 280x cards to achieve that performance and I think that it is impossible to have that much.

        source?

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          majsta last edited by

          @Calem

          It is possible. I said that I think that hardware part is prepared for every algo. Problem is not KNC itself they had their profit. Problem is that they need to satisfy all the buyers who don’t have anything profitable to mine right now. They are jumping from coin to coin(scrypt or nscrypt) trying to find any kind of profit. Only solution is to cover more and more algos.

          @mirrax

          You are expecting to give you link to the official statement from someone from KNC? News don’t travel like that anymore…

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            Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

            @cisahasa I got an tip that KNC is testing other firmwares, now on FTC. I wanted to say that I think that they prepared their hardware part to support anything. It is possible that no one can say for some algo that is ASIC resistant. If you look what happened to nscrypt coins last few days you will understand what I m saying. If you look at few miners joining to coinotron and if you calculate you will see that they have at least 800 280x cards to achieve that performance and I think that it is impossible to have that much.

            lol, I have a friend with 1100. You don’t know enough farmers.

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            • SpartanC001
              SpartanC001 Regular Member last edited by

              we need to get someone to talk to coinotron, as well theyre now taking well over 50% of the network, i think more like 75% of the network, its rather… greedy, and they have the potential to do some dark stuff if they wanted with that hashrate, checking right now (12:26 GMT, 8-dec-2014), coinotron has 969Mh/s, network hashrate 1.39Gh/s.

              looking a few minutes after, the network hashrate has suddenly shot to almost 2Gh/s… wherever 600Mh/s came from, **** knows as all pools that i can see are still at their normal rates, coinotron still at 963Mh/s, GMC still at 65Mh/s. seems a bit weird in my eyes, or perhaps ive not been at it long enough, lol

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                RIPPEDDRAGON Regular Member last edited by

                Their top 2 put together is 300 MH/s currently

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                • ghostlander
                  ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                  While it’s possible technically to design and produce ASICs for any algorithm, I don’t think they can implement NeoScrypt easily. Even if they do at some point of time, I can always release a 64-bit version of NeoScrypt incompatible with 32-bit devices or very slow there.

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                    SpartanC001 Regular Member last edited by

                    i mine on GMC (give-me-coins) and sometimes a random user who comes and dumps 500Mh/s on the pool, seems to be 1 single worker aswell. some insane farming going on, must be wolf0’s friend with 1100 280x’s lol,

                    i wonder how the heck these people actually get their hands on so many gpus like that, insane O.o

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                      Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                      i mine on GMC (give-me-coins) and sometimes a random user who comes and dumps 500Mh/s on the pool, seems to be 1 single worker aswell. some insane farming going on, must be wolf0’s friend with 1100 280x’s lol,

                      i wonder how the heck these people actually get their hands on so many gpus like that, insane O.o

                      They’re obviously cheaper wholesale. Doubt it’s him, though - I think he’s on XPM right now.

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                        mirrax last edited by

                        Can he post a picture? Never saw 1100 GPU farm yet.

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                          Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                          Can he post a picture? Never saw 1100 GPU farm yet.

                          Dunno if he wants people to know - I could ask, I guess, but we have more of a business relationship.

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                            RIPPEDDRAGON Regular Member last edited by

                            I’m with wemineftc at moment (although they’ve really pissed me & others off past few days!) and the hashtate is 155Mh/s with 345 miners.

                            I left them and I am not going back, join me on ftc.theblocksfactory.com or ftc.nut2pools.com

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                              cisahasa last edited by

                              Can he post a picture? Never saw 1100 GPU farm yet.

                              there is 2-4 of them… seen it

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                                A Former User last edited by

                                … they have the potential to do some dark stuff if they wanted with that hashrate,

                                I’m under the impression that ACP will keep things in order, so I wouldn’t worry to much.

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                                  A Former User last edited by

                                  While it’s possible technically to design and produce ASICs for any algorithm, I don’t think they can implement NeoScrypt easily. Even if they do at some point of time, I can always release a 64-bit version of NeoScrypt incompatible with 32-bit devices or very slow there.

                                  So essentially, there wont be ASICs untill we feel as though they we are ready for them?

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                                    Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                                    So essentially, there wont be ASICs untill we feel as though they we are ready for them?

                                    At the cost of changing the algorithm often, you can evade ASICs easily.

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                                    • ghostlander
                                      ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                      So essentially, there wont be ASICs untill we feel as though they we are ready for them?

                                      It isn’t very complicated to replace or add a PoW algorithm if it’s for common good. If block hashing algorithm stays the same (SHA-256d currently), it doesn’t matter for the most part of crypto software. For example, there was no need to update Abe, a popular block explorer, after switching to NeoScrypt. It doesn’t verify PoW hashes at all.

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                                        Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                                        I want to know why on earth permuting the state for parallel chacha ONCE is slower than doing it dozens of times. This is nuts.

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                                          SpartanC001 Regular Member last edited by

                                          I want to know why on earth permuting the state for parallel chacha ONCE is slower than doing it dozens of times. This is nuts.

                                          When you shove it 1, it cries for a while and them does it, but if you feed it 20, its got no room to cry so it calculates them then cries after… jk, but id like to know aswell, goes against logic

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                                            Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                                            When you shove it 1, it cries for a while and them does it, but if you feed it 20, its got no room to cry so it calculates them then cries after… jk, but id like to know aswell, goes against logic

                                            Yeah, some manual inlining, unrolling, and memory optimizations are the difference between 130kh/s on a 270X and 300kh/s. That compiler is stupid.

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