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    • U
      UKMark last edited by

      1. I saying this back in April :)
      2. We pay in USD then? :-\

      I’m not being (although probably sounding) pedantic btw, but I really can’t see, what you see or expect as a solution?

      1. If the world is going to adopt Crypto then it needs to be “easy enough for Granny to use” so some form of prepaid Crypto card (random out of the hat idea)? But how?..
      2. If merchants would love to sell to the Crypto community but don’t want Crypto as payment, then it’s up to the Consumer (US) to only go to merchants that will except Crypto, why should we compromise in what we want to be our future? < Again the only thing stopping us, is US!

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      • zerodrama
        zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

        [quote name=“UKMark” post=“8663” timestamp=“1370114777”]
        1. I saying this back in April :)
        2. We pay in USD then? :-\

        I’m not being (although probably sounding) pedantic btw, but I really can’t see, what you see or expect as a solution?

        1. If the world is going to adopt Crypto then it needs to be “easy enough for Granny to use” so some form of prepaid Crypto card (random out of the hat idea)? But how?..
        2. If merchants would love to sell to the Crypto community but don’t want Crypto as payment, then it’s up to the Consumer (US) to only go to merchants that will except Crypto, why should we compromise in what we want to be our future? < Again the only thing stopping us, is US!
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        My design shifts the hard part to people who can do the hard part by paying for services and bills in bulk. The noobs can just use their credit cards for the certificates which can then be converted to coin.

        I’m rerouting the complexity away from the noobs.

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          UKMark last edited by

          [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“8664” timestamp=“1370115184”]
          [quote author=UKMark link=topic=1110.msg8663#msg8663 date=1370114777]
          1. I saying this back in April :)
          2. We pay in USD then? :-\

          I’m not being (although probably sounding) pedantic btw, but I really can’t see, what you see or expect as a solution?

          1. If the world is going to adopt Crypto then it needs to be “easy enough for Granny to use” so some form of prepaid Crypto card (random out of the hat idea)? But how?..
          2. If merchants would love to sell to the Crypto community but don’t want Crypto as payment, then it’s up to the Consumer (US) to only go to merchants that will except Crypto, why should we compromise in what we want to be our future? < Again the only thing stopping us, is US!
          [/quote]

          My design shifts the hard part to people who can do the hard part by paying for services and bills in bulk. The noobs can just use their credit cards for the certificates which can then be converted to coin.

          I’m rerouting the complexity away from the noobs.
          [/quote]

          I looked at your idea after I posted, it looks very good, I take it when you say certificate, you mean some form of digital certificate and not - Whoof up in smoke, where the fooks my certificate, certificates? :)

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          • zerodrama
            zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

            Yes. With the added benefit of making the housing market turn its wheels. (or whichever markets we choose).

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            • ghostlander
              ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

              Ripple is a big fraud targeted at BTC and other cryptos.

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                UKMark last edited by

                [quote name=“ghostlander” post=“8699” timestamp=“1370127004”]
                Ripple is a big fraud targeted at BTC and other cryptos.
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                I must admit I have had this thought myself.

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                • zerodrama
                  zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                  It’s the corporate federal reserve. We can do better.

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                    justabitoftime last edited by

                    [quote name=“UKMark” post=“8702” timestamp=“1370127461”]
                    [quote author=ghostlander link=topic=1110.msg8699#msg8699 date=1370127004]
                    Ripple is a big fraud targeted at BTC and other cryptos.
                    [/quote]

                    I must admit I have had this thought myself.
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                    This question is to address direct responses from merchants that aren’t interested in Feathercoin. Without a service such as Bitpay, most simply aren’t interested in holding a coin they can barely understand. I’m just trying to come up with creative solutions to bring more aboard. If you take a look at Litecoin’s merchant lists (which we have been) they’re not doing much better which is disappointing and yet reassuring on the challenges.

                    At the same time there’s stress getting FTC. When I talk to people about the coin, I’m often asked ‘Great, where do I buy it?’. As you know, it’s a bit of a process to move USD to FTC and becoming more of a nightmare to reverse the process.

                    I’m optimistic we’ll figure out the puzzle, but these are real concerns on adoption.

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                    • zerodrama
                      zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                      Justabitoftime, I’ll accept PayPal for Feathercoin if it means I can upgrade my mining rig.

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                        justabitoftime last edited by

                        [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“8711” timestamp=“1370129100”]
                        Justabitoftime, I’ll accept PayPal for Feathercoin if it means I can upgrade my mining rig.
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                        Paypal… don’t even get me started with that company. Aside from my personal issues dealing with them, isn’t our biggest challenge with Paypal chargebacks?

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                        • zerodrama
                          zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                          Yeah, but if you’re bringing in friends and family or established businesses it’s fine.

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                            justabitoftime last edited by

                            [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“8713” timestamp=“1370129369”]
                            Yeah, but if you’re bringing in friends and family or established businesses it’s fine.
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                            Friends and family -> I am the middleman :)

                            Businesses -> That’s where it gets interesting.

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                              Tuck Fheman last edited by

                              [quote name=“Smoothie” post=“8650” timestamp=“1370112590”]
                              Maybe create a payment processor that automatically does the price lock-in like bitpay and transfer funds. That is the only solution I can think of.
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                              Agreed.

                              Would “colored coins” offer a solution to this problem? Which is along the same lines as ripple.

                              [url=http://youtu.be/_qdr_Z3hrqQ?t=8m36s]http://youtu.be/_qdr_Z3hrqQ?t=8m36s[/url] … I’m including the merged mining and layered currency segment as well (because I want you guys to hear it and think about the possibilities it opens up), but what may apply to this discussion in particular is the colored coin discussion that follows.

                              The above video may be what started this entire thread in the first place. lel

                              Also see : [url=https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212490.0]https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=212490.0[/url]

                              [url=http://feedback.feathercoin.com/forums/208241-general/suggestions/3999931-implement-the-holy-grail-ot-bitmessage-]http://feedback.feathercoin.com/forums/208241-general/suggestions/3999931-implement-the-holy-grail-ot-bitmessage-[/url] ;)

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                              • ghostlander
                                ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                [quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“8709” timestamp=“1370128308”]
                                At the same time there’s stress getting FTC. When I talk to people about the coin, I’m often asked ‘Great, where do I buy it?’. As you know, it’s a bit of a process to move USD to FTC and becoming more of a nightmare to reverse the process.
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                                Yes, that’s a problem for most cryptos. Most people have nothing to do with mining or day trading, and they don’t want to. If we figure out a quick and easy way for those people to convert FTC into USD/EUR and vice versa, we’re into a real success.

                                PayPal stinks strong even without chargebacks. Their business policies have nothing to do with common business ethics. I’ve accepted a PayPal payment for the last time some 10 years ago, and things have got much worse since.

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