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    • Bushstar
      Bushstar last edited by

      Take a look at the block chain.

      http://explorer.feathercoin.com/chain/Feathercoin?count=500&hi=33711

      All the blocks timed at 18:XX are generated by the attacker. Every so often they orphan genuine blocks and they seem to be trying to orphan them all. This is an attack on all the pools as any blocks found by a pool will be orphaned.

      Pools should disable PPS if they are running it and move to RBPPS or something similar.

      This seems to be a reaction to the large investments we saw in the Feathercoin markets yesterday. Last time we suffered from these attacks it also coincided with the price rising.

      Donate: 6hf9DF8H67ZEoW9KmPJez6BHh4XPNQSCZz

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        Alec40Gr last edited by

        hmm…check this out…

        http://explorer.feathercoin.com/address/6tbxs8oikuwjmTFwnitNmfQWsBb1WgUg7s

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          DaMooMoo last edited by

          [quote name=“DaMooMoo” post=“11485” timestamp=“1370776392”]
          [quote author=iawgoM link=topic=853.msg11476#msg11476 date=1370775813]
          [quote author=DaMooMoo link=topic=853.msg11475#msg11475 date=1370775623]
          Hi guys,

          are the attacks still happening? I’m having a lot of trouble connecting to my regular pool.
          [/quote]

          Which one is that? I mine on Coinotron and ther site is down whole day…
          [/quote]
          D2 pool. the pool operator is doing his best to resolve the issue (as I’m sure all pool operators are). I guess we just have to sit tight for the moment.
          [/quote]
          D2 pool seems to be stable at the moments, might be of help to you if your pool is still down.

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            Nutnut Regular Member last edited by

            [quote name=“Bushstar” post=“11560” timestamp=“1370783787”]
            Take a look at the block chain.

            http://explorer.feathercoin.com/chain/Feathercoin?count=500&hi=33711

            All the blocks timed at 18:XX are generated by the attacker. Every so often they orphan genuine blocks and they seem to be trying to orphan them all. This is an attack on all the pools as any blocks found by a pool will be orphaned.

            Pools should disable PPS if they are running it and move to RBPPS or something similar.

            This seems to be a reaction to the large investments we saw in the Feathercoin markets yesterday. Last time we suffered from these attacks it also coincided with the price rising.
            [/quote]

            How do you think they are able to achieve this? Is there anything we can do to actively help prevent it? Other than mining?

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            • ghostlander
              ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

              [quote name=“Nutnut” post=“11576” timestamp=“1370785872”]
              [quote author=Bushstar link=topic=853.msg11560#msg11560 date=1370783787]
              Take a look at the block chain.

              http://explorer.feathercoin.com/chain/Feathercoin?count=500&hi=33711

              All the blocks timed at 18:XX are generated by the attacker. Every so often they orphan genuine blocks and they seem to be trying to orphan them all. This is an attack on all the pools as any blocks found by a pool will be orphaned.

              Pools should disable PPS if they are running it and move to RBPPS or something similar.

              This seems to be a reaction to the large investments we saw in the Feathercoin markets yesterday. Last time we suffered from these attacks it also coincided with the price rising.
              [/quote]

              How do you think they are able to achieve this? Is there anything we can do to actively help prevent it? Other than mining?
              [/quote]

              A classic 51% attack with repeated block chain forks and DDoS on large pools. Our hash rate is too low to prevent such attacks. Need to grow up again.

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              • Bushstar
                Bushstar last edited by

                [quote name=“Nutnut” post=“11576” timestamp=“1370785872”]
                [quote author=Bushstar link=topic=853.msg11560#msg11560 date=1370783787]
                Take a look at the block chain.

                http://explorer.feathercoin.com/chain/Feathercoin?count=500&hi=33711

                All the blocks timed at 18:XX are generated by the attacker. Every so often they orphan genuine blocks and they seem to be trying to orphan them all. This is an attack on all the pools as any blocks found by a pool will be orphaned.

                Pools should disable PPS if they are running it and move to RBPPS or something similar.

                This seems to be a reaction to the large investments we saw in the Feathercoin markets yesterday. Last time we suffered from these attacks it also coincided with the price rising.
                [/quote]

                How do you think they are able to achieve this? Is there anything we can do to actively help prevent it? Other than mining?
                [/quote]

                Zerodrama is working on technical solutions, he seems to have something that would make this type of attack much most costly to achieve. The world is a dangerous place now that all those GPUs have been freed from Bitcoin mining.

                Such a solution is a long way off so in the mean time let’s get mining. I have a new mining rig to build to put into the mix :)

                Donate: 6hf9DF8H67ZEoW9KmPJez6BHh4XPNQSCZz

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                  Radacoin last edited by

                  By the way: Who’s finding our blocks?

                  Coinotron is down, and all the other pools I’ve checked only find orphans.

                  So who’s finding “legit” blocks?

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                  • Bushstar
                    Bushstar last edited by

                    [quote name=“Radacoin” post=“11605” timestamp=“1370789142”]
                    By the way: Who’s finding our blocks?

                    Coinotron is down, and all the other pools I’ve checked only find orphans.

                    So who’s finding “legit” blocks?
                    [/quote]

                    The attacker is finding the block and orphaning our blocks as they have more than 51% of the hash power.

                    Wemineftc seems to be down to.

                    Donate: 6hf9DF8H67ZEoW9KmPJez6BHh4XPNQSCZz

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                      Radacoin last edited by

                      [quote name=“Bushstar” post=“11614” timestamp=“1370789860”]
                      The attacker is finding the block and orphaning our blocks as they have more than 51% of the hash power.
                      [/quote]

                      Do you know the current hashing power of the attacker?

                      What are we miners supposed to do now? Solo mine?

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                        svennand Regular Member last edited by

                        [quote name=“Radacoin” post=“11617” timestamp=“1370790359”]
                        [quote author=Bushstar link=topic=853.msg11614#msg11614 date=1370789860]
                        The attacker is finding the block and orphaning our blocks as they have more than 51% of the hash power.
                        [/quote]

                        Do you know the current hashing power of the attacker?

                        What are we miners supposed to do now? Solo mine?
                        [/quote]
                        have solomining as failover. that way a ddos attack on the pool wont affect the network hashrate since cgminer goes solo mining when it can not reach your pool

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                          jeremiel Regular Member last edited by

                          [quote name=“Bushstar” post=“11614” timestamp=“1370789860”]
                          [quote author=Radacoin link=topic=853.msg11605#msg11605 date=1370789142]
                          By the way: Who’s finding our blocks?

                          Coinotron is down, and all the other pools I’ve checked only find orphans.

                          So who’s finding “legit” blocks?
                          [/quote]

                          The attacker is finding the block and orphaning our blocks as they have more than 51% of the hash power.

                          Wemineftc seems to be down to.
                          [/quote]

                          fcpool has had more than 50% of hash power for a day. one user with 159MH right now. It’s been working though they got a lot of orphans and now have a bunch more found blocks at 360MH for the entire pool.

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                            zythen Regular Member last edited by

                            612,268,522 KHash/s (60 block avg.) now and all the blocks being mined are orphaned again… :(

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                              ASDASDASD last edited by

                              WOW

                              Current Network Hashrate: [b]612,268,522 KHash/s[/b]

                              An hour ago give-me-ftc was at [b]70%[/b] network hashrate @ 470 MH/s

                              Currently give-me-ftc is reading [b]Pool: 468.14 MH/s (0.1%)[/b]

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                                ASDASDASD last edited by

                                Now it is back down to [b]197,750 KHash/s [/b]!

                                The attackers must be increasing hashing power to about 99% certainty to solve blocks & successfully attack.

                                This attack is not to destroy FTC but to make a lot of money it seems like.

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                                  zythen Regular Member last edited by

                                  Well almost everything I made today jumped back into unconfirmed status for some reason :/

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                                    meetrat1 last edited by

                                    We as a community need to focus all hashing power we have and keep as much as we can on mining feathercoins.

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                                      hynodeva last edited by

                                      Our pool stopped FTC for now, since we just lost 2 blocks, one with more then 26 confirms already.
                                      I am investigating the issue, but i cannot run a PPS pool in this situation…
                                      I will bring FTC pool back up as soon as i locked out all PPS workers… so you guys can try to defend the coin… but PPS is not possible at this point.

                                      Happy Mining.

                                      hynodeva

                                      EDIT: We are back up, PPS workers are disabled.

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                                        meetrat1 last edited by

                                        Use a rbpps system on feathercoin to help encourage people to hash.

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                                          Piedaddy last edited by

                                          are the blocks being stolen still able to be cashed out? Cant they be nullified in some way?

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                                            hynodeva last edited by

                                            That will depend on how the FTC network & community handles the situation.
                                            My first idea was the rollback to a certain block, which has not been corrupted and check how many blocks will be lost for the real network(not the fake chain)… if that relation is fine, we might just hardfork the chain ourself from that given point.

                                            That would require client code changes i guess… this is serious guys… we need to figure out a solution fast, before the still running pools, loose to much and have to stay on the fake chain.

                                            I am really considering to stop FTC at all, and wait until we do that hard fork, otherwise we confirm the fake / attacks chain…

                                            hynodeva dev

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