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Bushstar

Just to be clear, the 4 BTC will not be returned to Kraken but will be held by Uncle Muddy for bounties.

You need to do this to clear your name and prove this is a misunderstanding.

Kraken has been a loyal fan of Feathercoin for a while now, he donated those coins in the first place and created a 100 BTC development fund for Feathercoin, this whole situation has put that funding into serious doubt and Kraken’s support is currently in peril.

uncle_muddy

Disappointed is about all I can say here!!

Kraken, provided the bounty in good faith Mirrax, and now all you seam prepared to do is take it for your own whilst returning nothing to the community.

Regardless of what you believe is going to be done with the bounty funds once they are turned over is irrelevant, as the fact remains they are not yours to take!

I’m going to try and appeal to your better nature at this time, and request the the missing 4BTC be retuned either to Kraken himself, or into the BTC address I posted a few days ago. Failure to do so within the next 48hrs is only going to confirm peoples worst feelings that you are a scammer and have taken the funds for yourself with no intention of paying them back.

Saddened

UM

ChekaZ

@mirrax said:

@Bushstar said:

I’ve Tweeted to Mirrax just in case he has not seen Rob’s message.

https://twitter.com/bushstar/status/729191920187101184?lang=en-gb

I saw the message.

Funny tho. You could just send the BTC, instead you are posting such a useless message, like yeah I saw it, but not giving a single fuck.

Wellenreiter

@mirrax: Simply return the fund as Muddy said!!!

RIPPEDDRAGON

@uncle_muddy said:

Disappointed is about all I can say here!!
UM

2nded

bluebox

@mirrax said:

@Bushstar said:

I’ve Tweeted to Mirrax just in case he has not seen Rob’s message.

https://twitter.com/bushstar/status/729191920187101184?lang=en-gb

I saw the message.

crickets…

mirrax

@uncle_muddy said:

Disappointed is about all I can say here!!

Kraken, provided the bounty in good faith Mirrax, and now all you seam prepared to do is take it for your own whilst returning nothing to the community.

Regardless of what you believe is going to be done with the bounty funds once they are turned over is irrelevant, as the fact remains they are not yours to take!

I’m going to try and appeal to your better nature at this time, and request the the missing 4BTC be retuned either to Kraken himself, or into the BTC address I posted a few days ago. Failure to do so within the next 48hrs is only going to confirm peoples worst feelings that you are a scammer and have taken the funds for yourself with no intention of paying them back.

Saddened

UM

You guys seems to not understand that i do not work under deadlines.
If you want full control over the coins keep it in your own wallet, not anyone else… good advice.

uncle_muddy

@mirrax said:

You guys seems to not understand that i do not work under deadlines.

So enlighten me then Mirrax, what am I failing to understand? If there coins are there its a few clicks to send them on their way!

UM

Bushstar

As it seems that you are not able to return the coins I think that the truth could be your saving grace right now.

uncle_muddy

The clock has stopped Mirrax, you lack of action can only lead people to believe that you have in fact taken the coins for your own benefit and are unwilling to return them.

You have been given plenty of time to return the coins to make this all go away but you have chosen to do nothing more than to poke fun at the people trying to help us, so left with no other option you have been banned! and will be label accordingly once I have made the required changes to the forum software.

I feel sorry for the poor man who throws away almost 3 years of building a community reputation to throw it all away over 4 BTC, but that is the path you have chosen here.

I can only hope it was all worth it

UM (and before you ask, yes I have the backing of other admins)

Bushstar

This has now been reported by ftcorbsup on BitcoinTalk. http://bit.ly/1qfE9FL

Mirrax must have figured out that this was going to reflect badly on him across communities.

EDIT: Updated post based on Chekaz’s post below.

ChekaZ

@Bushstar said:

This has now been reported by ftcorbsup on BitcoinTalk. http://bit.ly/1NrhZLQ

Mirrax must have figured out that this was going to reflect badly on him across communities.

Correct Link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1287481.114

Iam sad. @mirrax you are just a dumb fool, sorry to say that, but 4 BTC is nothing against a good reputation in crypto.

Regards,
ChekaZ

MrWyrm

This whole thing saddens me. I’m not normally in favour of Bounties being retracted once publicly announced. Putting a bounty there adds a goal to developers, developers who could be actively working on code to claim the bounty, this saga hurts them too. What would happen if Kraken’s bounty was claimed today? Is it tough luck to the devs? The bounty is a promise to be held in escrow.

However in the case of Kraken’s bounty, trust has broken down between the donor and escrow, and funds still haven’t turned up with an alternative member of the team to establish trust again.

@mirrax there is no reason not to return the funds immediately, there is no moral high ground. It’s taken too long, and you are on the wrong side of the argument and the damage to the community and your own reputation is severe. Sort it out.

uncle_muddy

@MrWyrm said:

@mirrax there is no reason not to return the funds immediately, there is no moral high ground. It’s taken too long, and you are on the wrong side of the argument and the damage to the community and your own reputation is severe. Sort it out.

And if they are the ban and the label will be removed, I’m more than happy to give someone a second chance, but there has to be time limits on these things.

@mirrax you have plenty of ways of getting in contact with me if you wish to discuss this

UM

slavco

People, I would like to propose to stop the flame against the Mirrax.
You know, it is Mirrax and please stop shitting over his arrangement regarding FTC for some misunderstanding and argue regarding 4 BTC.
Also I would like to call Mirrax to defend himself and to write his arguments here.
Closing/Locking the tread and marking Mirrax as scammer and banning him, you just took his chance to defend himself. Again all of you keep calm and stop ruining FTC community, all of you… .

uncle_muddy

@slavco said:

Closing/Locking the tread and marking Mirrax as scammer and banning him, you just took his chance to defend himself.

He has had plenty of time to defend himself before his ban and tag where added. But in the interests of hygiene and safety I have removed his ban as it now seams from the bitcointalk forum that he is willing to open up lines of communication.

@mirrax said: on btc forum

SRY to my investment audience, but as they censor me on FTC forum, i have no other option left than deal with this stuff here.

You are right and that was wrong of me, but my response was when you dragged my name up over there.

@mirrax said: on btc forum

@muddy:
It is not about enough time to make a transaction, that part is no problem.
I was thinking a lot about if this is right solution to situation.

There is only one right solution to the situation, do as has been requested of you, return the funds into another escrow account, for them to be held for bounty.

@mirrax said: on btc forum

After some talks with Mr. Wyrm it seems as digestable solution.

How about you hold the funds for the bounty and if nobody claim it before Christmas, than you send back to Kraken?
I promise i will not try to claim this bounty (not really to in the mood to do any work for FTC right now)

An address for you to do just that was posted 6 days ago, you have chosen not to talk to me regarding this matter, I have reached out to you via the forum and Skype, I have had a response in neither location.

@mirrax said: on btc forum

Of course i need you to un-ban me and remove the scam tag, when you receive the funds.

As already stated, I would like nothing more than to put this to bed, I don’t like the taste this is leaving anymore than the next man!

@mirrax said: on btc forum

Also i have some additional thoughts and would like to hear opinion

1, How exactly are those 2 statements different?
Send money to add xxx in yyy hours, if you dont, you are scammer!
Provide evidence, that you are not ex-darkmarket vendor hiding before russian law in Bangkok, if you don’t you will be treated as such!

You had already said to Kraken that you would return the coins, then choose not to… this is what has caused the problems. You are going against your own words, and then choosing to not communicate with people who are trying to help you resolve the issue.

@mirrax said: on btc forum

2, Calem sold his appartment and was scammed about 60BTC by Kevlar, how actively FTC community solved this?
Mirrax who initiated ban of Kevlar is banned because he is not really sure with how to handle bounty money properly.
The bounty high is less that 1% of very shady person holdings, yet whole community hunt for mirrax and seems to be super active.

I don’t have enough information regarding the Calem/Kevlar incident to pass comment, but what I will say is that was not something that took place via the FTC forum, this incident is.

@mirrax said: on btc forum

3, I propose adding paragraph into ftc code of conduct about accepting donations. Basically the initial instructions i had from Kraken was:
“I will send you 100k FTC for smart contracts bounty. Send me your address.” that is all…
never mentioned that he need me to actively trade or send back or when to send back

You where acting as escrow for a bounty fund… when asked to trade that bounty you should have got clear terms as to what would happen with any profit etc…

@mirrax said: on btc forum

4, I sold the coins after they gain 4x in value as i wanted to protect this value.
It turned out to be an early sell later on.
What would you do if the coins you was asked to hold for bounty gain lot of value?

and Kraken is honouring that increase in value, he is still saying that they can be used for the bounty.

@mirrax said: on btc forum

also please stop asking me to send the funds asap it has no effect at all.
I will do that when i consider this to be the right thing to do.
But i suppose this situation can be solved well within this month.

You have only been asked to return the funds within a time to enable us to clear your name, and stop the mud slinging that is taking place. Personally I don’t see the issue with transferring the funds into another escrow account ASAP to deal with the problem. But as you plainly do please let me know what would be an executable time scale, and I will discuss that with the rest of the team.

UM

slavco

+1 for removing his ban, now at least he has chances to write his arguments here.
Regarding who is right I don’t want to take sides.
Regarding future bounty programs funds must be locked under multy signature transactions.

uncle_muddy

Let’s just hope he comes along to defend himself, and within a timely manor…

mirrax

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mirrax

I decided to send the money to muddy this night to add
1Apx58dMnd4A5bP2keKy5jzpEnHM4Lsm8C
with no conditions.

I hope this makes you happy guys:
https://blockchain.info/address/1Apx58dMnd4A5bP2keKy5jzpEnHM4Lsm8C

for me this is premature sign of weakness