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    • J
      justabitoftime last edited by

      Looks like Yacoin now has GPU mining.

      https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=232241.0

      We’ve met some great people from their community. We wish them all the best as their coin is tested.

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        Radacoin last edited by

        [quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“13420” timestamp=“1371006809”]
        Looks like Yacoin now has GPU mining.
        [/quote]

        It seems they are using a modified scrypt hashing algorithm.

        Maybe we should consider doing a similar thing?

        Advantage: Hashing power can not be redirected so easily -> attacks from rouge LTC pools are impossible
        Disadvantage: Hashing power can not be redirected so easily -> harder for legit users to switch to us.

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        • zerodrama
          zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

          It uses a predictable N. That’s asking for being pwned.

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            justabitoftime last edited by

            [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“13599” timestamp=“1371033047”]
            It uses a predictable N. That’s asking for being pwned.
            [/quote]

            Can you please explain this (pretend your talking to your non-geek friend so we reach a wider audience here)?

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            • zerodrama
              zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

              If you know N+1 is coming at a given block and you have the hashrate you can premine it like it’s a new chain and then inject right as everybody else switches over. You end up having the longest blocks every time the thing switches.

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                justabitoftime last edited by

                [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“13657” timestamp=“1371044661”]
                If you know N+1 is coming at a given block and you have the hashrate you can premine it like it’s a new chain and then inject right as everybody else switches over. You end up having the longest blocks every time the thing switches.
                [/quote]

                What would you have done differently? I’m not talking about the 2 chain ideas you’ve presented in the feature development lead thread, but more like something minor that could have offered their solution a smaller attack surface?

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                • zerodrama
                  zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                  [quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“13658” timestamp=“1371044960”]
                  [quote author=zerodrama link=topic=1657.msg13657#msg13657 date=1371044661]
                  If you know N+1 is coming at a given block and you have the hashrate you can premine it like it’s a new chain and then inject right as everybody else switches over. You end up having the longest blocks every time the thing switches.
                  [/quote]

                  What would you have done differently? I’m not talking about the 2 chain ideas you’ve presented in the feature development lead thread, but more like something minor that could have offered their solution a smaller attack surface?
                  [/quote]

                  “Randomizing shield frequencies, Captain. Attacks have ceased to penetrate shields. Oh and number 1 I order you to do a number 2”

                  Still maybe fixing YAC’s approach might give us a subchannel for microtransactions. Gah. I need like 3d notepad to keep track of all these ideas.

                  Longer version:
                  Randomize N within a given range, use a difficulty and reward window (related to N) to allow the blocks to be accepted.

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                    justabitoftime last edited by

                    [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“13666” timestamp=“1371045649”]
                    [quote author=justabitoftime link=topic=1657.msg13658#msg13658 date=1371044960]
                    [quote author=zerodrama link=topic=1657.msg13657#msg13657 date=1371044661]
                    If you know N+1 is coming at a given block and you have the hashrate you can premine it like it’s a new chain and then inject right as everybody else switches over. You end up having the longest blocks every time the thing switches.
                    [/quote]

                    What would you have done differently? I’m not talking about the 2 chain ideas you’ve presented in the feature development lead thread, but more like something minor that could have offered their solution a smaller attack surface?
                    [/quote]

                    “Randomizing shield frequencies, Captain. Attacks have ceased to penetrate shields. Oh and number 1 I order you to do a number 2”

                    Still maybe fixing YAC’s approach might give us a subchannel for microtransactions. Gah. I need like 3d notepad to keep track of all these ideas.

                    Longer version:
                    Randomize N within a given range, use a difficulty and reward window (related to N) to allow the blocks to be accepted.
                    [/quote]

                    How wide would that range need to be to really minimize the attack impact? If N is known within a given range, does it really offer that much more protection unless it’s fairly large?

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                    • zerodrama
                      zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                      Could be a short range with alternating windows. Or we could make the cost of a miss be large.

                      Literally, I could come up with a wide combination of ideas.

                      This is why I want to put out floppy fork (soon soft fork) capability. Our options become huge.

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                        jeremiel Regular Member last edited by

                        [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“13677” timestamp=“1371046990”]
                        Could be a short range with alternating windows. Or we could make the cost of a miss be large.

                        Literally, I could come up with a wide combination of ideas.

                        This is why I want to put out floppy fork (soon soft fork) capability. Our options become huge.
                        [/quote]

                        I thought it was clear… this is feathercoin. We don’t fork. We

                        [img]http://www.avenue80.com/media/2011/11/titanium-spork.jpeg[/img]

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                          justabitoftime last edited by

                          ;D

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