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      haxree last edited by

      I think part of the problem is using block to count until next difficulty change - why not use time. Or would that mess up the coin limit/generation rate.

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        Ilocans last edited by

        [quote name=“haxree” post=“3450” timestamp=“1368557323”]
        I think part of the problem is using block to count until next difficulty change - why not use time. Or would that mess up the coin limit/generation rate.
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        Why not a mixed ?
        I mean the first between 2016 Blocks and X days, Would this prevent this kind of situation ?

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          UKMark last edited by

          [quote name=“haxree” post=“3450” timestamp=“1368557323”]
          I think part of the problem is using block to count until next difficulty change - why not use time. Or would that mess up the coin limit/generation rate.
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          That’s a fair point while I don’t understand the reason myself, how would it be made secure? Time can be altered (well it can’t, but it can :)) - I suppose we would need some sort of timezone setting EG: CST crypto-time-standard too that the network adhered too otherwise UTC/EST/GMT/EDT etc would all get their difficulty changes at different times.
          But like I say I don’t know the reason why not…

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            Bushstar last edited by

            [quote name=“haxree” post=“3450” timestamp=“1368557323”]
            I think part of the problem is using block to count until next difficulty change - why not use time. Or would that mess up the coin limit/generation rate.
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            A newly generated block gets its time from the median time of connected nodes. It is possible to have a new block with a time before the previous block. If you base the difficulty on the network time is could be exploited to change the difficulty.

            Donate: 6hf9DF8H67ZEoW9KmPJez6BHh4XPNQSCZz

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              aysyr Regular Member last edited by

              Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?

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                UKMark last edited by

                [quote name=“aysyr” post=“3466” timestamp=“1368561226”]
                Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?
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                From what I can gather, it is easy to set time wherever you want to, ie: In the future or past etc.
                I know many years ago those 30 day software trials used to last forever :D

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                  justabitoftime last edited by

                  [quote name=“UKMark” post=“3483” timestamp=“1368563839”]
                  [quote author=aysyr link=topic=363.msg3466#msg3466 date=1368561226]
                  Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?
                  [/quote]

                  From what I can gather, it is easy to set time wherever you want to, ie: In the future or past etc.
                  I know many years ago those 30 day software trials used to last forever :D
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                  30 day trials … .hmmmm… no wonder my clock still says 1998. :)

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                    00400 last edited by

                    How will this fork work? Will we still have to reach the current retarget, or will it be split?
                    I am asking because expected block and retarget times are growing and growing :-\

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                      jeremiel Regular Member last edited by

                      [quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“3485” timestamp=“1368563928”]
                      [quote author=UKMark link=topic=363.msg3483#msg3483 date=1368563839]
                      [quote author=aysyr link=topic=363.msg3466#msg3466 date=1368561226]
                      Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?
                      [/quote]

                      From what I can gather, it is easy to set time wherever you want to, ie: In the future or past etc.
                      I know many years ago those 30 day software trials used to last forever :D
                      [/quote]

                      30 day trials … .hmmmm… no wonder my clock still says 1998. :)
                      [/quote]

                      You really need to upgrade that windows 98 machine. :D

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                        raptorak last edited by

                        [quote name=“DigitalDoom” post=“3542” timestamp=“1368584781”]
                        [quote author=jeremiel link=topic=363.msg3523#msg3523 date=1368570889]
                        [quote author=justabitoftime link=topic=363.msg3485#msg3485 date=1368563928]
                        [quote author=UKMark link=topic=363.msg3483#msg3483 date=1368563839]
                        [quote author=aysyr link=topic=363.msg3466#msg3466 date=1368561226]
                        Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?
                        [/quote]

                        From what I can gather, it is easy to set time wherever you want to, ie: In the future or past etc.
                        I know many years ago those 30 day software trials used to last forever :D
                        [/quote]

                        30 day trials … .hmmmm… no wonder my clock still says 1998. :)
                        [/quote]

                        You really need to upgrade that windows 98 machine. :D
                        [/quote]

                        Ah…the good ole days of internet!

                        When my eMachines Desktop w/ Celeron 333Mhz CPU, 128Mb of RAM and an 80Gb HDD was plenty enough for the entire family! Difficult to imagine now.
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                        I still have a *working* laptop that has a 4GB HDD, 32 MB of ram (I think, maybe less), and not even sure what CPU it has. It’s from when laptops were still the new thing.

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                          live627 last edited by

                          We have a 486 with Win95 lol

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                            Radacoin last edited by

                            @Bushstar: When is the update comming?

                            Network Hashrate down to 318,149 KHash/s

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                              archminer last edited by

                              [quote name=“Radacoin” post=“3589” timestamp=“1368602449”]
                              @Bushstar: When is the update comming?

                              Network Hashrate down to 318,149 KHash/s
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                              Also @Bushstar, don’t forget to take the decline of hashrate into consideration when estimating how many blocks will be generated in the next week.

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                                robep00 last edited by

                                Hi Bushstar,

                                I did put all my rigs to mine feathercoins in the meantime. (4,400 Kh/s).
                                Anything we can do to help?
                                I am a dev.

                                Respectfully

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                                  vasp last edited by

                                  just updated feathercoind on my pool from GIT, there are
                                  “13 hours ago FeatherCoin difficulty adjustment protocol upgrade: 504-block adjustment [sunnyking]” comment
                                  So, from which block will this update work?

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                                    ShadowEW last edited by

                                    Official update announced, hardfork in 205 blocks:

                                    http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=505.msg3640#msg3640

                                    Let’s get these last few blocks out the way! ^_^

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                                      justabitoftime last edited by

                                      Please help us notify the pools and direct them here if they need assistance.

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                                        zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                                        serraz is updating his. serraz kicks ass.

                                        so that’s at least about 10% converted over guaranteed.

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                                          justabitoftime last edited by

                                          [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“3681” timestamp=“1368625214”]
                                          serraz is updating his. serraz kicks ass.

                                          so that’s at least about 10% converted over guaranteed.
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                                          Thank you for the update, please keep them coming.

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                                            Pathosverdes3 last edited by

                                            “At block 33,000 the difficulty will be adjusted by 41.4% to help speed up transactions.”

                                            So if I calculated correctly it means next difficulty will be little over 110, right?

                                            If I put that into the calculator I see I won’t be making a lot more than I am mining now. I hope the FTC value will go up after the fork.

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