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      Ilocans last edited by

      [quote name=“haxree” post=“3450” timestamp=“1368557323”]
      I think part of the problem is using block to count until next difficulty change - why not use time. Or would that mess up the coin limit/generation rate.
      [/quote]
      Why not a mixed ?
      I mean the first between 2016 Blocks and X days, Would this prevent this kind of situation ?

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        UKMark last edited by

        [quote name=“haxree” post=“3450” timestamp=“1368557323”]
        I think part of the problem is using block to count until next difficulty change - why not use time. Or would that mess up the coin limit/generation rate.
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        That’s a fair point while I don’t understand the reason myself, how would it be made secure? Time can be altered (well it can’t, but it can :)) - I suppose we would need some sort of timezone setting EG: CST crypto-time-standard too that the network adhered too otherwise UTC/EST/GMT/EDT etc would all get their difficulty changes at different times.
        But like I say I don’t know the reason why not…

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          Bushstar last edited by

          [quote name=“haxree” post=“3450” timestamp=“1368557323”]
          I think part of the problem is using block to count until next difficulty change - why not use time. Or would that mess up the coin limit/generation rate.
          [/quote]

          A newly generated block gets its time from the median time of connected nodes. It is possible to have a new block with a time before the previous block. If you base the difficulty on the network time is could be exploited to change the difficulty.

          Donate: 6hf9DF8H67ZEoW9KmPJez6BHh4XPNQSCZz

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            aysyr Regular Member last edited by

            Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?

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              UKMark last edited by

              [quote name=“aysyr” post=“3466” timestamp=“1368561226”]
              Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?
              [/quote]

              From what I can gather, it is easy to set time wherever you want to, ie: In the future or past etc.
              I know many years ago those 30 day software trials used to last forever :D

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                justabitoftime last edited by

                [quote name=“UKMark” post=“3483” timestamp=“1368563839”]
                [quote author=aysyr link=topic=363.msg3466#msg3466 date=1368561226]
                Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?
                [/quote]

                From what I can gather, it is easy to set time wherever you want to, ie: In the future or past etc.
                I know many years ago those 30 day software trials used to last forever :D
                [/quote]

                30 day trials … .hmmmm… no wonder my clock still says 1998. :)

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                  00400 last edited by

                  How will this fork work? Will we still have to reach the current retarget, or will it be split?
                  I am asking because expected block and retarget times are growing and growing :-\

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                    jeremiel Regular Member last edited by

                    [quote name=“justabitoftime” post=“3485” timestamp=“1368563928”]
                    [quote author=UKMark link=topic=363.msg3483#msg3483 date=1368563839]
                    [quote author=aysyr link=topic=363.msg3466#msg3466 date=1368561226]
                    Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?
                    [/quote]

                    From what I can gather, it is easy to set time wherever you want to, ie: In the future or past etc.
                    I know many years ago those 30 day software trials used to last forever :D
                    [/quote]

                    30 day trials … .hmmmm… no wonder my clock still says 1998. :)
                    [/quote]

                    You really need to upgrade that windows 98 machine. :D

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                      raptorak last edited by

                      [quote name=“DigitalDoom” post=“3542” timestamp=“1368584781”]
                      [quote author=jeremiel link=topic=363.msg3523#msg3523 date=1368570889]
                      [quote author=justabitoftime link=topic=363.msg3485#msg3485 date=1368563928]
                      [quote author=UKMark link=topic=363.msg3483#msg3483 date=1368563839]
                      [quote author=aysyr link=topic=363.msg3466#msg3466 date=1368561226]
                      Isn’t NTP based on what I guess is considered the source of all network time? Would it be able to get its time from that?
                      [/quote]

                      From what I can gather, it is easy to set time wherever you want to, ie: In the future or past etc.
                      I know many years ago those 30 day software trials used to last forever :D
                      [/quote]

                      30 day trials … .hmmmm… no wonder my clock still says 1998. :)
                      [/quote]

                      You really need to upgrade that windows 98 machine. :D
                      [/quote]

                      Ah…the good ole days of internet!

                      When my eMachines Desktop w/ Celeron 333Mhz CPU, 128Mb of RAM and an 80Gb HDD was plenty enough for the entire family! Difficult to imagine now.
                      [/quote]

                      I still have a *working* laptop that has a 4GB HDD, 32 MB of ram (I think, maybe less), and not even sure what CPU it has. It’s from when laptops were still the new thing.

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                        live627 last edited by

                        We have a 486 with Win95 lol

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                          Radacoin last edited by

                          @Bushstar: When is the update comming?

                          Network Hashrate down to 318,149 KHash/s

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                            archminer last edited by

                            [quote name=“Radacoin” post=“3589” timestamp=“1368602449”]
                            @Bushstar: When is the update comming?

                            Network Hashrate down to 318,149 KHash/s
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                            Also @Bushstar, don’t forget to take the decline of hashrate into consideration when estimating how many blocks will be generated in the next week.

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                              robep00 last edited by

                              Hi Bushstar,

                              I did put all my rigs to mine feathercoins in the meantime. (4,400 Kh/s).
                              Anything we can do to help?
                              I am a dev.

                              Respectfully

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                                vasp last edited by

                                just updated feathercoind on my pool from GIT, there are
                                “13 hours ago FeatherCoin difficulty adjustment protocol upgrade: 504-block adjustment [sunnyking]” comment
                                So, from which block will this update work?

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                                  ShadowEW last edited by

                                  Official update announced, hardfork in 205 blocks:

                                  http://forum.feathercoin.com/index.php?topic=505.msg3640#msg3640

                                  Let’s get these last few blocks out the way! ^_^

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                                    justabitoftime last edited by

                                    Please help us notify the pools and direct them here if they need assistance.

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                                      zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                                      serraz is updating his. serraz kicks ass.

                                      so that’s at least about 10% converted over guaranteed.

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                                        justabitoftime last edited by

                                        [quote name=“zerodrama” post=“3681” timestamp=“1368625214”]
                                        serraz is updating his. serraz kicks ass.

                                        so that’s at least about 10% converted over guaranteed.
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                                        Thank you for the update, please keep them coming.

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                                          Pathosverdes3 last edited by

                                          “At block 33,000 the difficulty will be adjusted by 41.4% to help speed up transactions.”

                                          So if I calculated correctly it means next difficulty will be little over 110, right?

                                          If I put that into the calculator I see I won’t be making a lot more than I am mining now. I hope the FTC value will go up after the fork.

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                                          • zerodrama
                                            zerodrama Regular Member last edited by

                                            It will update faster which means it will drop again afterwards.

                                            Remember the target is still 2.5 minutes. And at 110 it’s still going to be slower than that. 25 days became 7ish. But it’s not a full drop, so 110 under the old version 25 days / 1.4 = 20 days - 7 * 1.4 (less diff more blocks), so 10 days, but those 10 are now 10 / 4 = 2.5 days. Even then it will still be too high so yet another drop will occur (110 / 1.4 = 70). 10 / 1.4 = 5 days - 2.5 * 1.4 = 1.5 more days after that.

                                            So in short: Still about a week and a half before it settles. Then we rock the house.

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