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    • Wellenreiter
      Wellenreiter Moderators last edited by

      I’ve tested p2pool with one of the first versions of Neoscrypt sgminer.

      Situation is as follows:

      1. Using ‘stratum+tcp://p2pool.neoscrypt.de:19327’ without additional parameter fails
      2. Using ‘http://p2pool.neoscrypt.de:19327’ works as pool automatically switches to the long poll protocol
      3. Using ‘stratum+tcp://p2pool.neoscrypt.de:19327’ AND ‘–no-extranonce’ works. the pool and the miner are using stratum protocol.

      The reason of that behaviour is, that sgminer uses an extension to the original stratum protocol definition called ‘extranonce’ when started without the ‘–no-extranonce’ which is not supported by p2pool nodes.

      I think, that the extranonce extension was created to support ASIC mining, so the miner can generate more work on it’s own.

      As the Neoscrypt algorithm is currently not implemented on ASICS, there is no disadvantage to disable the extranonce feature in sgminer.

      As I’m using a NVIDIA card, I can’t test with the current version of sgminer and the latest kernel.

      If somebody could try and post the results here it would be great :)

      just direct your miner to p2pool.neoscrypt.de:19327 and specify the --no-extranonce parameter in the start command for your sgminer

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      • wrapper
        wrapper Moderators last edited by

        Thanks again Wellenreiter, genius work. I’ve now attached my AMD - R9 270 to Pool20, it is working with the windows download sgminer. It has doubled the Hash rate up to 95 KHash/sec.

        sgminer.exe -k neoscrypt --xintensity 3 --worksize 256 -g 2 -o stratum+tcp://pool20.neoscrypt.de:19327 -u xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx+0.00015 -p x --thread-concurrency 8192

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        • Wellenreiter
          Wellenreiter Moderators last edited by

          did you put your hashrate and card paramter to spartans site? ;)

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            Alpha Wolf last edited by

            Thanks again Wellenreiter, genius work. I’ve now attached my AMD - R9 270 to Pool20, it is working with the windows download sgminer. It has doubled the Hash rate up to 95 KHash/sec.

            sgminer.exe -k neoscrypt --xintensity 3 --worksize 256 -g 2 -o stratum+tcp://pool20.neoscrypt.de:19327 -u xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx+0.00015 -p x --thread-concurrency 8192

            What hash rate are you seeing with that 270 and is it stock or OCed?

            Thanks

            Edit: I also tested the above config line with my pair of R9 270’s with my wallet address, but would not work for me.

            Is that just a private pool and is why?

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            • Wellenreiter
              Wellenreiter Moderators last edited by

              It’s a public pool and should work, but it is facing some problems due to some attacks at the moment.

              What you can try:

              1. replace ‘stratum+tcp//…’ with http://…’ the pool tries stratum first and if that fails switches to longpoll then.

              2. try pool ‘http://p2pool.neoscrypt.de:19327’ a sister pool of pool20.neoscrypt.de

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                majsta last edited by

                It seems to me that KNC is up to publishing firmware for their Titan miners. Someone is testing FTC on coinotron again.

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                  Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                  Time to undervolt my rig in preparation to park her on Neoscrypt for a while.

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                    cisahasa last edited by

                    It seems to me that KNC is up to publishing firmware for their Titan miners. Someone is testing FTC on coinotron again.

                    tell me more what is happening?

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                      majsta last edited by

                      @cisahasa I got an tip that KNC is testing other firmwares, now on FTC. I wanted to say that I think that they prepared their hardware part to support anything. It is possible that no one can say for some algo that is ASIC resistant. If you look what happened to nscrypt coins last few days you will understand what I m saying. If you look at few miners joining to coinotron and if you calculate you will see that they have at least 800 280x cards to achieve that performance and I think that it is impossible to have that much.

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                        A Former User last edited by

                        Very interesting information…

                        Are you saying it looks like there is ASICs in development for NeoScrypt?

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                          mirrax last edited by

                          @cisahasa I got an tip that KNC is testing other firmwares, now on FTC. I wanted to say that I think that they prepared their hardware part to support anything. It is possible that no one can say for some algo that is ASIC resistant. If you look what happened to nscrypt coins last few days you will understand what I m saying. If you look at few miners joining to coinotron and if you calculate you will see that they have at least 800 280x cards to achieve that performance and I think that it is impossible to have that much.

                          source?

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                            majsta last edited by

                            @Calem

                            It is possible. I said that I think that hardware part is prepared for every algo. Problem is not KNC itself they had their profit. Problem is that they need to satisfy all the buyers who don’t have anything profitable to mine right now. They are jumping from coin to coin(scrypt or nscrypt) trying to find any kind of profit. Only solution is to cover more and more algos.

                            @mirrax

                            You are expecting to give you link to the official statement from someone from KNC? News don’t travel like that anymore…

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                              Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                              @cisahasa I got an tip that KNC is testing other firmwares, now on FTC. I wanted to say that I think that they prepared their hardware part to support anything. It is possible that no one can say for some algo that is ASIC resistant. If you look what happened to nscrypt coins last few days you will understand what I m saying. If you look at few miners joining to coinotron and if you calculate you will see that they have at least 800 280x cards to achieve that performance and I think that it is impossible to have that much.

                              lol, I have a friend with 1100. You don’t know enough farmers.

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                              • SpartanC001
                                SpartanC001 Regular Member last edited by

                                we need to get someone to talk to coinotron, as well theyre now taking well over 50% of the network, i think more like 75% of the network, its rather… greedy, and they have the potential to do some dark stuff if they wanted with that hashrate, checking right now (12:26 GMT, 8-dec-2014), coinotron has 969Mh/s, network hashrate 1.39Gh/s.

                                looking a few minutes after, the network hashrate has suddenly shot to almost 2Gh/s… wherever 600Mh/s came from, **** knows as all pools that i can see are still at their normal rates, coinotron still at 963Mh/s, GMC still at 65Mh/s. seems a bit weird in my eyes, or perhaps ive not been at it long enough, lol

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                                  RIPPEDDRAGON Regular Member last edited by

                                  Their top 2 put together is 300 MH/s currently

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                                  • ghostlander
                                    ghostlander Regular Member last edited by

                                    While it’s possible technically to design and produce ASICs for any algorithm, I don’t think they can implement NeoScrypt easily. Even if they do at some point of time, I can always release a 64-bit version of NeoScrypt incompatible with 32-bit devices or very slow there.

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                                    • SpartanC001
                                      SpartanC001 Regular Member last edited by

                                      i mine on GMC (give-me-coins) and sometimes a random user who comes and dumps 500Mh/s on the pool, seems to be 1 single worker aswell. some insane farming going on, must be wolf0’s friend with 1100 280x’s lol,

                                      i wonder how the heck these people actually get their hands on so many gpus like that, insane O.o

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                                        Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                                        i mine on GMC (give-me-coins) and sometimes a random user who comes and dumps 500Mh/s on the pool, seems to be 1 single worker aswell. some insane farming going on, must be wolf0’s friend with 1100 280x’s lol,

                                        i wonder how the heck these people actually get their hands on so many gpus like that, insane O.o

                                        They’re obviously cheaper wholesale. Doubt it’s him, though - I think he’s on XPM right now.

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                                          mirrax last edited by

                                          Can he post a picture? Never saw 1100 GPU farm yet.

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                                            Wolf0 Regular Member last edited by

                                            Can he post a picture? Never saw 1100 GPU farm yet.

                                            Dunno if he wants people to know - I could ask, I guess, but we have more of a business relationship.

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